that ed snowden, the nsa leaker was in the same general boat in the intel community where they needed warm bodies. in my day he wouldn't have gotten a clearance. i think there is a bigger problem, putting bradley manning, ed snowden, all of them in context. even though manning went to school in wales for several years, very peeve visually anti-american school system in wales. none the less, our culture, our education system, hollywood, even talk shows have created this idea that our government is bad. look at what kids learn or don't learn in school. they learn about hiroshima, not about the baton death march. they learn about the evils of slavery but not that hundreds of thousands of americans died to end slavery. the picture they get from k through 12 through grad school is that america is somehow bad. clearly ed snowden had that idea. clearly brad manning -- bradley manning figured oh america is somehow evil. and we keep bombarding our children with the idea that our country is not the greatest in the world but among the worst. >> bill: well, that's what we are doing here with the